it was important to do it because what reverend jackson was trying to do is get the media out there. once you get the media out there then the politicians are paying attention as well. >> maybe. we understand that gun violence is driven by drug gangs essentially there was a central drug that went away and now it's a bunch of drug gangs fighting for turf. is that what is really happening there? >> you definitely have the smaller clicks as they call them you don't have the bigger structure. there is a lot fighting amongst smaller groups. groups broken down into infighting at this point. there is a lot of competition for different resources a lot of the conflicts are intrapersonal conflicts. not necessarily about drugs but just about, you know, simple disrespect we have access to guns so that escalates. >> bill: you have very tough gun laws, mr. mcgill, it doesn't seem to inhibit these gangsters from getting any firearm they want and using them with impunity. >> yeah, you know, bill, one of the problems is that, you know, for years, i thought the the daley administration allowed for cri